Project 35 Building some cabinets

Cabinetry

Warning: This page is VERY big with many pictures as it covers all of the cabinets.
 

Preface:
Once the interior is finished, split with bulkheads, and paneled, the "furniture" is next. Cabinets, which I will call them instead of "lockers"  ( lockers are next to the gym to me..) are very different in a boat. We have some experience, Gena more than I, with making kitchen cabinets. Not at all useful in a boat!

My theory on making boat cabinets is to make a solid framework first, then drape ply over exposed sides, and finally, add a face to it. The face should be solid wood so it can be rounded on the edges some. Sharp veneered plywood ends works in a kitchen, but not in a galley, or anywhere in a boat for that matter. Because I personally am prone to bumping into things, we want everything as injury proof as aesthetically possible.

Gena started with the ones in the aft, and encouraged me to start the ones forward. Here's some clippings from the main site.

 
   
Aft Berth Cabinets

Gena (photo right) set to work on the aft cupboard face. She divided it into 4 doors as envisioned in the animation below.

The boards separating each door were daydoo'd underneath to give the top and bottom a constant run. The inside can be seen in the photo below left. That kind of work always impresses me! The sunken in edge is cut out with a chisel. Gena has patience with that. I would use the router he he.

 

  Flo

 

 


 

 In this animation ( excuse the cartoonishness of it lol) the way the berth flips up is shown. Even with this, I forgot that the door in the little cupboard sticking out would be hit by the berth once up ha ha! So much for CADing.

The little spindle rails I think are a cool touch to break up some of the large flat areas that will be the cupboards. The small center cupboard may or may not exist. We still haven't decided.
It may end up being just a shelf under the portlight each side.

The cupboard on the right in the latter clip will actually be accessed from the head.

Gena hummed and hawed about the base of the cupboards that will be on each side of the large berth. At first the idea was to sink it down low, but it curves in so much that not much space would be added. Also the depth may be a problem for reaching small objects thought to be missing that have rolled off into a deep dark corner down there!



 

  The easy and simple solution was to bring it up to the frame and build on top of it. ( yay! ) The (left) photo shows it in place. It had to be battened in for the curve. The accuracy is important as small objects may find their way through any cracks. Silicone will be added as creak proofing, as well as stiffening.
Cabinetry is a tricky thing at best, even in a house, but Gena has her way of doing things with simplicity and weight in mind.
Because the face of these little cupboards is going to be supported by the side, and visa-versa , no real framing is needed. Just Glue and nails ( and screws ) made it really solid. The side not on in the picture to the right will also be braced by a shelf and ( possibly ) a cupboard or another shelf. This well keep it together. All of the joints must be glued to avoid weight shifting, especially in heavy seas, causing the classic creaking sound. It's a cool sound in a wood hull, but not in a cupboard right next to your ear while trying to sleep!

Side is on!(port)
Also the strength is unequaled with a good join and pl200 glue. (Some carpenters may disagree!)
Gena has had some previous experience with wood so I respect her decisions.

The large cupboard faces are the strong point of the whole assembly. Made of 3/4" oak they have been inset at the joins to get a nice strong connection. The corners have been rounded ( nice with the router! ) to make it more friendly.

Insetting is used with particle board to get rid of rough edges and to give the thing good strength. i.e. drawers. Particle board cannot be used in a boat because it soaks up moisture like mad! Those glues are not waterproof so eventually it will break down. Because it was pressed together, it will puff up to twice it's size and then fall apart. ( Not a pretty site that! )

Any ply used should be exterior grade or at least have waterproof glue. Sometimes the only way to know for sure is to dip a piece in water and then take it out after a few hours, then checking it out.

In high areas like these cupboards, non-waterproof would be ok. Underneath and close to the hull in enclosed areas would not.

 

Coating the edges of plywood is also probably a good idea. That's where the moisture seems to get in first. If the face on either side is coated well, the moisture can't really get in too easily.

The coating must be maintained as well over time with new coats. All of our exposed edges will be veneered. There aren't many as these are also sharp edges. Something you don't want on a boat!


Little shelf wood supported on wood



A cupboard face, corner rounded

 

As usual we try to work in different areas of the boat so as not to get in each others way. Because I'm the router expert, I felt obligated to do all of the rounding and slotting for Gena.

The photo to the right shows a nice edge in the entryway to the head. The whole 3/4" frame has been sunk in to fit over the cockpit support frame and to overlap the panel and plywood.

 

 

The drawing left shows the frame from above. The inner edges where the cupboard sliding doors will be were left sharp as they will likely have a track or door frame of some sort.

It was a very tight fit which is good! Some screws into the angle and glue hold everything on.


View from head
 


Face above cockpit cupboard

  Inside of the framework is a piece of 1/4" oak plywood. Each frame was slotted to accommodate this. We may put a mirror in partially, or fully, to brighten the aft up and give the appearance of a more open and large area. This works well in our house!

Mirrors are ok as long as they are glued solidly on the back to plywood. If it ever broke it would be a bugger to remove, but at least the glass stays put!

The finished frame looks really nice we think -and it's not even coated yet! The corner which is along the entry companionway has been rounded as well. I bumped into it and a 3/4" round is easy on the body.

 The router table is useful but somewhat of a pain to adjust down to change bits. It's a slow process and a little frustrating. Too bad the shafts on bits aren't a bit longer.

After a while the sawdust and cuttings just pile up deep! I must resist the temptation to make Yule-logs!!

The Head

The space in the aft seems to be dwindling away. If Gena would just stop building all of these cabinets and things, there'd be more room! But they are nice looking cabinets hey?

 

This cabinet will likely be holding towels and face cloths, bathroom stuff. Notice the lip Gena put on the face of the shelves. That's to stop everything from sliding off and doing a "jack in the box" surprise feature when someone unsuspectingly opens the door. The screws are hidden with risen oak plugs. Adds a nice touch we think.

The attachments to the hell panel and ceiling have been siliconed to stop movement and hidden mildew etc.

 

 


Gena lining up the vanity

I have designed a simple latch that may work. ( below) It is a rod that slides in a hole with a spring on the end. The rod is drilled and tapped to accept a screw with the head chopped off and the handle is screwed on to that. Pretty simple really. Oak is strong enough that this would work. So if all else fails, these will be it. I do love those fancy brass knobs!

 

                       

 

Gena was asking my opinion on where the vanity in the head aft should be. I think the face should be even with the hull as there will be a mirror there and it will look "even". The height we decided is 3" higher than usual so small children would need to climb up on the toilet mount to use the sink. That's ok! It always seems to me , especially when washing my face, that those vanities are way too low.

In the photo to the left, a vertical plank encompasses the tub. The folding door for the enclosure will tuck in behind this nicely when not in use. Some of the angles involved in this area were a challenge for Gena, but she did a fine job of making everything fit!


The view of vanity, counter edge has been left to me

Gena kept busy finishing of the face of the vanity (Top page photo) and planning where all the pipes will go. I'm glad she has some knowledge about pipes from several house building experiences, as I'm useless at it. I haven't a clue about all those threads and sizes and fittings!


The vanity is really starting to look like...well..a vanity!
 Gena asked for some border with nice rounded edges and the router and I obliged.

 

Berth Ends

The space in between the two cupboards aft under the port-lights needs to be filled, and really I have been planning it all along. In fact, although small, I have been looking forward to doing something neat in there!

I knew I wanted to have a small cupboard and perhaps put one of those little spindle rails along the top, but the door was an issue. At first I thought of using some of the roll top desk stuff ( tambours ) but that should be all reserved for the galley. Then for a while I had decided on 2 small doors but too tacky and would be hard to match patterns without using solid board making them too heavy.

One must think of all of these things even for something so simple, will it go with every thing else? Can it be latched closed?  What do we want to put in it?
Suddenly a flip up door came to mind! These pivot cleverly inward and even can be spring assisted!
 

 

 Getting the pivot point in the right place was a little tricky so I created and rendered it in CG animation, video above, until it acted right! Just like CAD, but in one hour. To the left shows it open and closed with independent pivot supports. Top page photo shows it in place. A small hook latch will keep it closed although these doors don't open easily by themselves.

Now just picture those little spindles on top and some cute curtains around the port-light! Just like home :)

The space in between the two cupboards aft on the opposite side could have also been a flip up cupboard bur Gena asked for a small bookshelf. This is a good choice as one often reads in bed.
 I wanted to do something fancy so I made a curvy frame that comes into a piece of half round on top, and cut a slot for a 1/4" board to slide into. The board can be positioned to stop books from falling out by wedging it up higher, or removed all together through the top.

The top and bottom are inset, nailed and glued.

It took all day but I love the way it looks, so a day well spent.

Insetting the white panel over ply before inserting it is a good way to do the door but the PL300 sealant that squirted out was hard to get off of the the white! This is the exposed side while the door is open. The side that will take all of the rubs in a narrow gangway.

It has some weight to it so it will need to be sturdily pinned open. The photo shows it sitting on the aft berth.



Dry locker, cool design...or hot!

Dry Locker

Scotty, a friend of ours who is in the process of rebuilding a similar boat to ours, asked if we were going to have a dry locker. We didn't even know what that was at the time, but now it's a necessity!

A dry locker is somewhere to place your wet oilies ( or clothes ) when re-entering the boat during heavy/rainy weather. Normally, there is a heat source nearby, or a chimney stack going through it from a heater. This allows the clothes to dry out rather than sitting around in the boat getting everything else wet, hence, a dry locker.

Because our heater is diesel, the flue needs to be almost vertical. It can be seen in the photo in rough position. Our option is to put the dry locker right next to the heater with a vent at the bottom and top to allow for circulation. If it is found a small fan is required then so be it. 


The photo to the right shows Gena coating the bottom with blue stuff. This is a place for water to drip off of wet garments into. A drain may be added as the sump is directly below here.
Even though screws were "toed" into the corners, clamps hold the frames while glue dries.

Ready for finishing!

The heater, a Dickinson Newport stove, came with a fan that attaches away from the unit which draws through the radiator attachment on top. We plan to use that one to pump warm air aft.

The idea is thus:
The heat from the heater will radiate onto a thin stainless panel on the dry locker side through small holes in the plywood. The vent at the bottom into the dry locker will add some circulation of air. The top vent will allow the warm moist air to escape into the small top cupboard where the flue damper will be mounted. The air will then escape through the damper into the cowl vent (a.k.a. our chimney) outside.

In the photo to the left one can see the water heater in it's proposed position on top of a "Blue Stuff" pail.

Yes! Hot water can be made from the heater as it has a hot water coil option built in as well!

More on the hot water soon!


We acquired some thin stainless plate is fairy good condition a while back so might as well make some use of it. Aluminum would have worked the same way but I've seen what happens to aluminum once the salt air gets at it, especially if it's not cleaned regularly. It can't be polished without removing the anodized coating which ends up making an ugly mess.
 In set in the photo above, a small hole ( 4x3 ) leads into the dry locker. The S.S. plate will heat the dry locker but air needs to flow through then back out the top cupboard to get rid of moisture, thus requiring an intake. A nice S.S. grill will cover this once we receive our next order.
Under Seat Lockers

The seating in the dining area is also a locker, and offers a large storage area. I can see these being used to stow foodstuffs such as containers of flour, sugar etc. Also it might be a good place to store a small toolkit, so we won't need to go under the pilothouse floor into the engine area every time we need a screwdriver.

 For more on the seating, go here, or straight to Day353. Under the berths are an even larger area to store bigger, bulkier things.

Forward State room

Putting wood together in a boat interior continues to big a tricky affair, although today everything went smoothly. What is to come may be another story. Most of the forward berth area I am working on is either curved, angled, or twisted.
 

I think the trick is to try not to be too accurate with irrelevant areas such as behind lockers, or under things that won't be visible anyway. Wedging behind a frame that runs along the ever changing hull shape, for example, is a lot easier that trying to plane the twist into a straight length of wood that will become curved when screwed into place. Planing for us isn't possible at the moment as we are waiting for a new belt for our planer! Besides, the frame is only connected at the hull frames so one doesn't gain much by flattening the frame against the hull.

 

In most cases, the frame is to support plywood for a locker/cupboard bottom or desktop or shelf, so that edge ( being smaller ) can come in at any angle as long as it doesn't leave a gaping hole.

As the photo above shows, a little more advance planning would have been an asset and would have prevented the complex join below the clamps. It's just hard when one isn't really sure how things are going to be until reaching a certain point of the project.

A good use of space is a must in this area, and lockers under the deck will provide lots of storage for bedding, extra pillows, clothes etc. We want the whole berth to appear to be a single unit, ( cozy and comfortable as mentioned before ) but leave a feeling of spaciousness.
The flow from the overhead locker to those along under the deck is accomplished by leading the frame down. Right away Gena was concerned about head bumping but I assured her it wouldn't be a problem.
 
The long smooth curve ( photo left ) cut most of that sharp point off. The strange shape was not only to accent a bookshelf that will be to the left, but also to avoid a rather nasty knot in the board! It won't really be visible from anywhere but inside the locker next to it.
You may notice that all of the wood is coated before it is finally put in. This is to coat areas that will be inaccessible after in place and won't have glue in those areas. After seeing what heavy moisture can do to exposed wood in a very short time (ugly black streaks) it seems to be a good move albeit things are constantly delayed waiting for pieces to dry.
The lockers under the forward portside deck continue to be my job, and require some precision to look good. A slot routed in behind will hold the plywood bottom and allow for a bit of error in the cut.

A frame still needs to be added along the hull, and small frames across where the sections will be divided up.

Below these is a large expanse of white panel that I don't really like, but I'm not sure if this can be remedied. More cupboards would take away space from the berth.

 
 

In this photo (left), the end of the berth where the foot locker will be is visible. I may put a small locker in under the lockers in the corner, if there is time.

 

Galley Cupboards

Today the galley got underway. Gena was head carpenter in the kitchen when we were building the house, so it only seemed appropriate she be the designer of our kitchen. I use the word designer  in a   " how to do what  Sandy wants" context!

The photo above shows how quickly the new 3/4" countertops became a tool storage area lol! The pointy scraps are just holding them up, not a finished product.

 Gena has made very good progress in the galley, with the stove/oven area fitted and shelving planned. The counter seems to be out far enough to be usable without pushing ones head into the cabin side. It could stick out more but hey, we could have a larger boat!

The vertical dividers were battened in to the hull and cut, then screwed and glued in place. It's a good idea to glue everything (we use PL400) so that wood can't creak from weight shift, which is very annoying. -Unless you like that creaking sound.

Some of the hard to reach areas must be used as everyone who is out there cruising already seems to mention lack of space for foodstuffs and/or cooking related items. Gena split the deep aft edge with a shelf to perhaps facilitate our actually using these areas on a regular basis.
Any shelving must be faced by about an inch to prevent things from sliding off onto the floor when the door is opened. This is pretty important as we experienced the problem in out little 21' sailboat. Healing in the wind creates all sorts of considerations, some that can be downright dangerous if ignored!

Before I went on with my little projects, Gena requested I make the cuts on the little wall we have decided on in the forward end of the galley. (left) Made from 3/4" plywood, it will be rigid enough to attach a hand-hold, plus will be a safe place to momentarily place large items on the counter, such as pots of hot soup, or anything else we don't want on the floor. Being the cook more often at home, I can see the advantages of this.
 I have penciled in a sloppy projection of how the shape will be capped with solid oak. Better get the drum cymbal out again ha ha!

Carefully positioning the 12 volt deep freezer inside the island counter was accomplished as well today. The original hinges were removed as they won't work at all here, as was the latch. It needed to be oriented so the compressor is in an open and ventilated area, and risen to the height of the counter top.
My big idea ( hopefully it stays in the plans ) is to complete the top height by gluing the thickness of the countertop (3/4") to the lid, then attaching a breadboard that will overlap the counter all around. This way there are no seams to worry about.
Gena got off to a good start today by perfecting the island in the galley. Notice the lid is off the freezer, ready for some new hinges once the lid has been outfitted with a breadboard. ( I'm talking about the type for chopping, not for mounting electronic components ha ha!)

We have allowed for minimum hip space of 22" between counter tops. This is a nice distance ( unless one is overly "large") that will allow bracing as well as movement, bending over etc.

 

She has done well to keep the countertop level and even as it wraps  around the galley. The freezer must come up and be leveled precisely to allow the seal to close on the freezer, yet be a t counter height.
This has been accomplished by making some leveling nuts that are countersunk into the  base for the freezer.

The inset  shows the nut. These nuts will be threaded with bolts and locking nuts that will allow the  level to be raised and lowered easily from each end.

Because the freezer is on a risen platform, some space under it has been salvaged. A long drawer or cupboard will be made.


Gimbals in place, bolted in well! 7 on each side.
Pictured here is the gimbaled assembly for the stove attached. The original configuration was a wrap around that hung from higher up. This was all fine until we realized the oven would need to be 2 feet away from the hull; putting it out in the middle of the galley. The swing distance was much too large!

The gimbal point is lower but it still will balance and we are prepared to put in some small chunks of lead underneath if it becomes a problem.  

Notice the cabinet face protruding inward. It will come close to the oven but won't touch.

Gena chose some trim that  has a 3/4" inset and a relatively round edge. The height above the counter is about 1/4". A lip will help keep things on the counter while under way or at a rocky anchorage.

Myself, I don't much like a lip as it is a little harder to keep clean. Stuff tends to pile up in corners, and this will be an area to keep sanitary. Many galleys are this way so I suppose it isn't a problem.

The counter top pattern is great as it doesn't require any particular orientation. The color is similar to wood colors, but not too dark.

While lining up the counter top with the Formica, both covered in contact cement, one corner accidentally touched as we were positioning it! Gena pried and I lifted. Slowly it came back off. Almost messed up the whole thing! Almost.

 

As we have bought a brand new 19" LCD TV for the boat, we need somewhere to put it. It was never an option as we like to watch sailing videos, our own videos as well as test my music videos, local TV broadcasts and even watch movies.
There are several options including either bulkhead over the dining area, but this would cause cricks in the neck after any amount of time looking up. My desire was always to put it on the back of the cupboards that were then to be coming out over the countertop island in the galley. After looking at this and making a mock version of those cupboards we realized the cupboards would be too big and make the galley cumbersome.
 
The solution is to shorten the cupboards to 18" but extend the "TV box" the full 36" alone. The idea seemed to work but the whole thing needs to be styled in accordance to the rest of this area, plus have no sharp edges.

Another issue is where to put the 12 volt microwave? Everywhere except under the decks seemed just a bit too small. We searched shops for another, even if it meant powering off the inverter, but it seems they are all about the same size. Under the decks I want to put roll top cupboards so those areas are out.
We then realized we could hang it under the TV and run the cupboards out just far enough to hang it from, leaving counter space to the right of the sinks.
 

So I got to work making it become reality. As can be seen in the photo (right) the top will get it's support from the ceiling. A solid board of oak will do nicely. Originally, the plywood from the counter was to continue to the ceiling but with this new design, it only goes to the bottom of the cupboards and will serve as a base for the TV box.
After fitting all of the wood precisely, a curved end must be decided. I have used photoshop and an offset image ( slightly to the left ) to create a visual perception of how it may look. It seems ok so that's how it will be! (photo below )

The edges around the face of the box must be routed in about 1/8" to inset a piece of Lexan.
This will protect the delicate front of the LCD TV from shoulders falling into it in rough sea conditions. Better safe than sorry!
Speaker grills will need to be cut out so we can hear the thing.

The little drawn-in panel near the top left is a projection of my stereo amp/control. (yes! Another electronic project!)  Here we will be able to select inputs from the TV/DVD/radio/audio input jack.


Support top board to batten in ceiling curve

 

 After the big push to get the TV stand up, Gena can finally do some wiring from the shore power socket to a breaker panel, then to the charger unit under a galley seat.
Under Deck Galley Cupboards  
That said, I have come to the small cupboards underneath the deck along the galley countertop. I have been looking forward to these as they will be "roll-up" using some of the tambour we acquired on eBay a while back. First the frames need to be cut and joined. The whole side could be one solid chunk of oak but there are always weight considerations, particularly this high above the water line.
The frames need to be fairly wide though as to accommodate the slider track in a curvy fashion, and to have some structural strength.
Once the glue set, the outside shape was cut to use as a guide for routing the tracks. The round top edge cut away will be re-attached after the cut to butt the top facing into. Seemed like the easiest way to do it.  This was done early so the glue dried to allow working of the sections. ( photo right )

Notice the top board overlaps the rounded board, being routed in, glued and nailed makes for a good strong join. ( I wish I could "dove tail"; haven't quite got to that level of expertise yet! )

Because the deck increases in height as one moves forward, I decided to pre-construct the frames and insert afterwards as a whole unit. The uneven height along the top will be solved with a face board cut to fit. Some style of handles must be purchased that won't stick out too much and will blend well into the scheme.
 
  ...testing testing 1, 2, 3....

 A oui! Quel beau tambour! Once the frame was together I was surprised to see how well they slide up and down. This stuff is great! As it was purchased "used" I can only guess at how old this stuff is or where it came from.
For the tambour, a 1/4" x 1/2" slot was cut and the frames spaced apart to allow 1/8" movement. This way moisture expansion shouldn't be a problem. If there is a problem, the ends of the tracks have been routed downward to facilitate removal of the tambour. So far so good!

The real trick will be fitting them in place. There will be another one of these only single to fit on the forward side of the stove (pieces 4 & 5) but I can't get any real measurements as Gena is working in that area. ( God forbid I upset her concentration with the wiring. She's been under there a while, better go check and see if she's ok he he.

Below is the cupboards in place, with framed faces on. ( 1/4" ply with routed in frames.) Shelves and dividers still need to be mounted inside them.

Dining Area Cabinet

The experience from past cabinet building ( over the last few weeks ) has told me that maybe making the shelving and frame as much as possible before putting it in would be a good idea.
 The photo to the right shows the shelves just pushed into the end piece. The end is routed in just 1/8" but these slots will make it stronger and easier to install.

The photo to the left shows the frame in place, along with the dividers.

 

 It was attached to the bulkhead and cabin side with 1/2" quarter-round, screws & glue.  The quarter round was attached first and pre-drilled for the screws. (#6 size!) It went up really easily and I have found a new and better method for making cupboards/lockers/cabinets. To bad this is probably the last one I'll be building!

Next the facing was added. The only tricky section was the top plate. After battening and some sanding it fits like a glove. The only thing left ( I ran out of stream ) is the two small facings on the angled section. This is mostly for the look but also to erase the sharp corner of a right angle.

 A bookcase offsets the cabinet nicely, as does the facing edge under the panel. Good place for a speaker!

Foot Locker

The perfect time to work on the foot locker in the forward berth. The framed top will flip up and house our monster sewing machine. The small frame on the end will be attached for the larger frame to hinge from. The reason this was done this way was because the sewing machine just barely fits, even the lid swinging up would be in the way!

The little end section won't be attached until a cubby hole is cut out in there to stuff sewing accessories.

 

The latch must be very strong so, in the event of a knockdown, it won't be floating around in the cabin with us. I decided to make my own out of aluminum and brass ( yellow part ) and if you look really closely at the photo, you may see the "button" sticking out. A good press on this and it's open, other wise it will remain firmly closed.

Nav table? Area? coming


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